Gearbox locked in gear

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by RS6MTM » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:18 pm

So tried it again. Put car in R and gave her some revs and it sounds as though the gear is not engaging properly as there is a slight grinding noise. I put the car in D and activated Limp mode but the car would not move back. Thankfully though, the garage is still in 1 piece!

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by RS6MTM » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:26 pm

Engaging in Limp Mode

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Trying to push back by hand

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by mavada » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:36 pm

...what happens when you switch to manual and immediately back to Reverse?
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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by RS6MTM » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:36 pm

mavada wrote:...what happens when you switch to manual and immediately back to Reverse?
Nothing!

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by mavada » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:43 pm

you could probably jack the whole car up so all wheels are from the ground and then try to get through some/all gears and see what happens...so theres no friction...
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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by Shoppinit » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:45 pm

Looks like your diff is seized or something. You can hear the ATF pump cavitating, though, so maybe the fluid level is low. Seen any oil patches on the floor?
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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by Shoppinit » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:47 pm

Warn the tow truck company that the car'll need skates. That bugger ain't movin'.

Did you check what I said with the Vagcom?
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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by ahoooga » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:49 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Sounds like the car won't come out of park then.

Maybe your selector cable as come off / snapped.

Can you plug the vagcom in and see what gear the gearbox thinks it is in when you move the selector? Might be an easy fix.
Watched the 2nd video , and think you should follow shops advice above on vagcom again now

Edit - he posted the same as i typed

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by RS6MTM » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:55 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Warn the tow truck company that the car'll need skates. That bugger ain't movin'.

Did you check what I said with the vagcom?
I lent my VAGCOM to a work colleague a couple of weeks ago so I dont have it right now. The only error code I got the last time I plugged it in was 'P0370 - Incorrect Gear Ratio'. Car hasnt moved since then so im assuming it will still be the same now?

No oil on the floor.

Dont know what jacking the 4 wheels will do? I know right now the car will move forward in Limp mode but not in reverse. How would that change if the wheels were without friction??

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by mavada » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:35 pm

When youve got the Vagcom back you could probably check those:

Dont know if this is worth a try, got this from the net.

Possible solutions:
(◦ Change the gearbox oil level check)
◦ Check (measuring blocks) / replace sensor input speed gearbox (G182)
◦ Check (measuring blocks) / replace Sensor Output speed gearbox (G195)
◦ Check (measuring blocks / encoding / part number) Automatic Transmission Control Module (J217)

Sorry for the bad translation:

◦ Usually this means that the clutch is slipping. How is the oil level? Is that replaced recently? You could check the sensors. In the gearbox Giving the mind a few times due to heat. Sometimes it is the case of the broken coupling in the forward gears. If that is the case then the bin in D, put your foot on the brake and then it may not go over the speed 2200 rpm. The "clutch basket" is broken / cracked and the terminal can not keep the gear in the right position. If it is indeed a slipping clutch and after changing the oil and replacing the sensors is the error persists, pull your wallet for a large gearbox overhaul.
◦ The Automatic Transmission Control Module monitors the ratio to compare. By the speed of the motor and the gearbox output An error code is stored as these two speeds do not meet the specified values​​.
◦ Errors in the gearbox are often the result of problems with the engine. So be sure there are no errors in the Engine Control Module stored that this may be related. A faulty load signal (eg a faulty coolant temperature sensor) can already cause
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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by mavada » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:57 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Sounds like the car won't come out of park then.

Maybe your selector cable as come off / snapped.

Can you plug the vagcom in and see what gear the gearbox thinks it is in when you move the selector? Might be an easy fix.

/edit: cat - the first link you posted showed me a cat before you fixed it.
http://audisrs.com/about16043.html&high ... gear+ratio
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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by ahoooga » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:28 pm

RS6MTM wrote:Ive ran it through VAG COM. Error Code P0370 - Incorrect Gear Ratio. This is a generic code which mean absolutely nothing to specify the exact problem. I have about 1 foot space around the car in the garage. It will be lifted by the repair company in a couple of weeks but right now its going nowhere!
Clarify something for us
Did you use vagcom/vcds or a cheaper generic cable ? ( you mentioned earlier that you lent your vagcom/vcds to a mate a couple of weeks ago).

Also, when did you get the error code p0370 , was it yesterday or before you parked the car up a few months ago or when ?

Is the error code you posted a typo ?, is it Error Code P0370 or did you mean P0730 as i cant find a listing under VCDS for error P0370 .but there is a gearbox related problem under p0730 in VCDS = Gear Ratio Monitoring: Incorrect Gear Ratio

get someone to check that you have all 3 brake lights working as well

I think until you can put a genuine VCDS/vagcom lead on it and post the log file in here its just a guessing game.

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by mavada » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:49 pm

i think he means: 17114 GEAR RATIO MONITORING : INCORRECT GEAR RATIO P0730-3500

P0370 is this: 16754 P0370
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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by RS6MTM » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:12 pm

mavada wrote:i think he means: 17114 GEAR RATIO MONITORING : INCORRECT GEAR RATIO P0730-3500

P0370 is this: 16754 P0370
Yup, this. I must have just mis-spelled.

I ran the VAGCOM when the car was parked up. The gearbox stopped working before this though, and it was for this reason that I parked the car. It jumped straight into 5th gear and wouldnt go into Reverse so there was little else I could do with it. Im just waiting at the minute for a recovery lorry to come take the car away to get a full gearbox rebuild. But if it wont move, to get it onto a recovery lorry, it wont be going anywhere

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Re: Gearbox locked in gear

Post by ahoooga » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:14 pm

mavada wrote:P0370 is this: 16754 P0370
Cant find that one in the ross tech wiki either

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