Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by chunky79 » Mon May 27, 2013 2:26 pm

chunky79 wrote:
yorkrs6+ wrote: Both unit 20 and other chap are saying the same thing.
Errrrrrr, what are they saying it is????????????????????????????????????????????????

I would hate to think how much you have paid to keep this noise.
Please answer the above, cheers.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by Rs6spec » Mon May 27, 2013 3:59 pm

I've got S6 suspension on mine nice and with comfy ;) with hotchkiss anti roll bars for the corners. (rs6 springs) I tried billsteins and found the ride worse than DRC. The old DRC lasted 114k surprisingly. S6 set up was suggested to me as I'm London based and the roads are shocking. And it only cost me £600. I have complete new DRC ready to go on when I move out of London and after I've source some plus springs.

After replacing the front spring rubbers and top mounts there was a huge improvement in ride quality over bumps. It feels less "loose"

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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by chunky79 » Mon May 27, 2013 4:20 pm

Come on guys, pss9 won't be as comfortable as drc, you would be stupid to think it would be. If drc didn't fail all the time I'm pretty sure most on here would have kept it. Running pss9 and hotchkis the car does handle like a dream for such a lard arse.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by swannny » Mon May 27, 2013 6:09 pm

Everytime I read one of your posts chunk, I have to do it in a Brummie accent now, and sometimes you end up turning into a Geordie.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by chunky79 » Mon May 27, 2013 6:14 pm

Stoopid boy.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by Shoppinit » Mon May 27, 2013 6:15 pm

Now he sounds Welsh.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by chunky79 » Mon May 27, 2013 6:46 pm

That would have been boyo, with a lot of spit thrown in.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by swannny » Mon May 27, 2013 8:52 pm

So you spit and not swallow then?!
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by yorkrs6+ » Mon May 27, 2013 10:46 pm

I'm not after 911 handling from an rs6.. That's why I have the turbo
However i was hoping for something better than the DRC - i was upgrading, not downgrading. the DRC is actually brilliant, just not v sporty in comparison to an m5 or AMG e63.
My criticism of the pss9 is its inability to soak up the bumps of a B road, which in turn is transmitted through the chassis and consequently the steering column and wheel. The constant jarring of bumps through the steering wheel as the chassis absorbs the shock waves instead of the spring travel is just not acceptable. My New springs have sorted most of this.
I have pedal bush by the way! I think my comments regarding steering wheel feedback might have been misinterpreted in handling. The pss9 handling is actually fine, it was the compromises I wasn't expecting - ie the constant vibrations from bumps in the road through the steering wheel and chassis.
No mention of suspension mount/part nos or cost in the paperwork Martin... I have nothing to back it up, other than your word, which historically has been good enough. I have also had an issue with the brakes which turned out to be the pads, and some of the knocks turned out to be bad fitting of inter cooler and head lights which were only down to you or lee. I've paid a lot of money to have my car rebuilt and I'm not happy with what I've ended up with. I will have this discussion with you before I comment any further on a public forum.

Amar - c5 rs6 is future classic, c6 is sadly only a depreciating one like my 911t. both great cars. That's why I went with c5 black plus with full cognac (inc steering wheel, gear stick and piped exclusive mats!). However, what doesn't help the c5 is that its made of butter in comparison to its German competitors of the same generation e39 m5 / e55 merc.

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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by yorkrs6+ » Mon May 27, 2013 10:53 pm

chunky79 wrote:
chunky79 wrote:
yorkrs6+ wrote: Both unit 20 and other chap are saying the same thing.
Errrrrrr, what are they saying it is????????????????????????????????????????????????

I would hate to think how much you have paid to keep this noise.
Please answer the above, cheers.
They don't know .... Grizz had it 18 weeks in total (8 weeks in may, 10 weeks from September, and it came back with same clunking over bumps and improvement through steering wheel - which is improved with ride height increase - no miracle fix.

Last chap is going from the list of stuff I've said unit 20 have done / replaced to work out what else it could be...

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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by Shoppinit » Tue May 28, 2013 8:58 am

I still don't understand your comments about the vibration through the steering. I get absolutely NO vibration when going over bumpy ground, even when the PSS9 are bottoming out. It makes me think that you might have a steering rack problem. I'm sure I mentioned it earlier, but did you check it was bolted on right? This is a common issue. Or could the front subframes be lose somehow?

It might be a problem that affects only the RHD drive versions, like the brake pedal vibration. Mine is LHD.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by Shoppinit » Tue May 28, 2013 9:00 am

Also, it's interesting that the clunking issue got better as the chassis height was raised. There must be a clue in there.

I'm interested in your spring upgrade, can you tell me any more about it? Who supplied, etc. Are you running the PSS as high as they'll go?
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by Shoppinit » Tue May 28, 2013 9:18 am

Are you on standard wheels?
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue May 28, 2013 9:31 am

I can't remember where I read this as it was ages ago but I could have sworn that when running an A6/RS6 too low on the suspension, you got oddities similar to what is being mentioned? Balls, wish I could remember where I read it as it was more than one thing I read on ride height problems. It will be totally wrong knowing me.
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Re: Rattle on bumpy Roads, out of ideas

Post by Shoppinit » Tue May 28, 2013 9:35 am

No, if you run too low then you can get weird vibrations from the drive train. I had this when I first put my PSS9 on. Car was extremely low, though, and this sounds like a different issue.
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