Why you should be wary of Pagids
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
I have no problem with what you're doing, Mr Footlong. I would certainly have done the same
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
On the positive side, changing the brakes on the RS6 is child's play. Well it would have to be a strong child. Or possibly an adult with a child's intellect. Either way, it's by far the easiest car I have ever changed the brakes on.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... ds#p402371
Tested them in the alps last summer, they stopped a 2 ton car without issues down 5 mountain passes. And I was on my own, so there was no holding back due to puking passengers.
Tested them in the alps last summer, they stopped a 2 ton car without issues down 5 mountain passes. And I was on my own, so there was no holding back due to puking passengers.
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
Apologies if I've missed something, but aren't Pagid pads OEM... so is it correct that if I took my RS6 into Audi to replace the pads, these are the ones they would use?
Why would they still be using pads with these sort of pin problems?
Is is something they do on purpose to get RS6 owners to spend £££'s in replacing their pads twice as often as necessary?
Why would they still be using pads with these sort of pin problems?
Is is something they do on purpose to get RS6 owners to spend £££'s in replacing their pads twice as often as necessary?
*SOLD* - currently looking for a replacement
03 Missano Red Avant
Silver Leather, H&Rs, Dension iPod Connection kit
85k miles
03 Missano Red Avant
Silver Leather, H&Rs, Dension iPod Connection kit
85k miles
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
Yup, the OEMs are pagids.
And I hear a lot of good reviews of the Mintex. I bought some, but haven't put them on yet.
And I hear a lot of good reviews of the Mintex. I bought some, but haven't put them on yet.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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Mr Footlong
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
Right, I caved in and ordered some brand spandangly new Mintex pads today, will get them Monday. Almost caved in and bought some Ferodos over the counter @ £134+VAT but not the end of the world waiting to fit everything until next week. Anyone want some Pagid pads? 
I see these getting picked up here about as quickly as an Aids baby (too far? 
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I see these getting picked up here about as quickly as an Aids baby (too far? ).Current:
23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung
Gone:
"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.
23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung
Gone:
"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
I'll give you £10 for 'em.
I've got Ferodos on the rear. Not bad at all.
I've got Ferodos on the rear. Not bad at all.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
i had mintex on my TTqS and they were proper <beep> !
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
Has anyone here used any of the EBC pads they are supposed to be the mutts ?
Avus Avant, RNS-E mk2 with sds and Bluetooth, Milltek, Hotchkis, Bilstein, Forge, ITG, A.C.E, Wagner, FBMFSW, MTM.
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
I had the red pads on the s3 and they seemed pretty good but not really heard anything good about them on thesebilko1 wrote:Has anyone here used any of the EBC pads they are supposed to be the mutts ?
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
Everyone I know who has tried the yellow stuff has taken them off almost immediately and replaced them with something else. Mintex are way better.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
Interesting discussion on there here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... mid=0&nmt=
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... mid=0&nmt=
But a hell of a lot more people would agree with him, including me. I'm finding it quite surprising that a motoring forum is by-and-large recommending EBC pads. Just a quick search through some other highly populated online car forums (including GTR.co.uk, evolutionm.com, lancerregister.com, dsmtuners.com, and many others) gives a very different picture of EBC pads, regardless of compound. In a nutshell, they are just not fit for purpose.
I had yellows on my Evo when I bought the car last year. I figured I'd give them a shot; surely they can't be as bad as people make out? After one trackday, they not only did they fade severely, but they chewed up my front discs. I didn't even trust them on the road, as they were useless from cold, with no feel whatsoever.
To give a comparison, I had Carbotech XP9's on my previous Evo. Now, look on the aforementioned forums and see the tide of positive comments about them. And it's not mass-hysteria, either. It's hard to express how good the Carbotechs are, especially in comparison to the EBC's. With no other change in brake setup (standard callipers & discs, braided lines, Motul fluid), I had no fade, lap after lap. More biting power at ALL temperatures. Progressive feel through the pressure range. I could go on and on....
The point I'm trying to make is this: do your research, guys. I honestly wouldn't use EBC pads again if I got them for free. The Ferodo DS series is also a very good choice (just in case anyone though I was a Carbotech fanboy wink).
The EBC's have one single good point, though....they don't dust much.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
I think caveman has just put carboteck pads on his plus
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
I've ben happily running Mintex pads front and rear since I've had the car. They were fitted when I bought it, though needed replacing due to a faulty sensor wire which kept flagging up a brake error on the dash saying they were worn when they weren't. Looked at the other options, mainly the Pagids, and decided they were ridiculous money for pads, especially due to their reputation for knackering discs. I can't compare the Mintex pads to anything else, but I can say they pull the car up pretty sharpish when required.
There are two downsides to the Mintex pads - firstly they have a slight grinding noise when you come to a stop - nothing too hideous (compared to the shrieking my XJS makes in the cold anyway) and you can lessen it by easing off the brakes as you come to a complete stop, and secondly they do tend to give a lot of dust. On the plus side, this means after a week my front wheels look like they're re-coloured in Titan. Swapping the fronts with the backs and driving it for another week till all the wheels match would be a lot cheaper than a refurb!
There are two downsides to the Mintex pads - firstly they have a slight grinding noise when you come to a stop - nothing too hideous (compared to the shrieking my XJS makes in the cold anyway) and you can lessen it by easing off the brakes as you come to a complete stop, and secondly they do tend to give a lot of dust. On the plus side, this means after a week my front wheels look like they're re-coloured in Titan. Swapping the fronts with the backs and driving it for another week till all the wheels match would be a lot cheaper than a refurb!
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids
bakustax wrote:I'm hazarding a guess here Mr Footlong...but...I reckon visits to this site have probably aged you 10 years in the last month!!...What the fu*k were you thinking when bidding on the Pagids...with a supposed 100miles on them...dude £23 pads??
'Cough' so Ben, how are you getting on with my infamous £23 Pagids on your car now compared to the Mintex pads you and I were running?Shoppinit wrote:I think the pagids are quite good. Just sell them on eBay when you've done a few thousand miles. Got £23 for my last set. Sucka!
Current:
23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung
Gone:
"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.
23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung
Gone:
"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.
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