Gearbox life survey

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Post by SteveCuz » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:47 pm

1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
3) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
4) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
5) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
6) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
7) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
8)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
9) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)


Reason for first service was a slip and a clunk. No debris found and no slip since. Reason for 2nd - was over with Grizz and wanted to be sure to be sure!! Also I heard that you can't change all the oil in one service

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Post by batty » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:30 pm

1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
3) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
4) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
5) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
6) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
7) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
8)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
9) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
10) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
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Post by paul_23 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:35 pm

1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
3) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
4) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
5) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
6) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
7) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
8)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
9) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
10) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
11) paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.

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Post by Fingers01 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:38 pm

1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
3) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
4) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
5) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
6) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
7) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
8)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
9) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
10) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
11) paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
12) fingers01 - standard 62K - no problems- no fluid changes but will consider ATF service having read previous posts

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Post by Cornishmoocher » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:41 pm

1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
3) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
4) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
5) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
6) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
7) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
8)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
9) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
10) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
11) paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
12) Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!
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Post by el_ringo » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:49 pm

I'm surprised you haven't busted more of them Mooch! I have to admit, I do handle the box with kid gloves most of the time and give the TC a moment to lock before giving it a large dollop if right foot!
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Post by ecain63 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:04 pm

1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
3) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
4) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
5) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
6) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
7) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
8)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
9) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
10) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
11) paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
12) Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!
13) ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today. I think its how you drive it that makes the difference in my opinion. No more 0-60's and the box will thank you for it!
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Post by Cornishmoocher » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:11 pm

[quote="ecain63"] No more 0-60's and the box will thank you for it![/quote]

Yeah but thats like buying the anniversary edition of Deepthroat meets debbie does dallas and saying I am going to watch it but I aint gonna wank. :wink:
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Post by RS6-4dr911 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:20 pm

Failed
1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4) paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5) Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!

Never Failed
1) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
8) ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9)RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,

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Post by ecain63 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:55 pm

Cornishmoocher wrote:
ecain63 wrote: No more 0-60's and the box will thank you for it![/quote]

Yeah but thats like buying the anniversary edition of Deepthroat meets debbie does dallas and saying I am going to watch it but I aint gonna wank. :wink:
Elequently put there Mooch. You have such a way with words. lol.

But i never said anything about 30+ rolling starts. They are proven to be much kinder on the transmission as the box is already fully engaged. It would seem that many of the issues come from the TC engaging full load from a standing start. If its fully locked down then the slip/wear is reduced tremendously.

Feel free to crack one out now mate! And carefull of the eyes lol.
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Post by woodlum » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:13 pm

Failed
1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4) paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5) Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!

Never Failed
1) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9)RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10) woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??

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Post by iR8V10 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:23 pm

Failed
1) Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2) paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3) batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4) paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5) Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!

Never Failed
1) Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2) Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3) el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4) CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5) RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6)Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7) Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9)RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10) woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??
11) RS6_Dave (2003) Std til 27,500, then MRC Stage 1+ , box map with Service, not a glitch but only on 33k now...
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Post by MoRS6+ » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:29 pm

Failed
1. Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2. paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3. batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4. paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5. Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!

Never Failed
1. Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2. Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3. el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4. CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5. RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6.Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7. Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
8. ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9. RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10. woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??
11. RS6_Dave (2003) Std til 27,500, then MRC Stage 1+ , box map with Service, not a glitch but only on 33k now...
12. MoRS6+ RS6plus, STD, 26k, original ATF, smooth as ice.

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Post by skyegtb » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:47 pm

Failed
1. Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2. paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3. batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4. paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5. Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!
6. skyegtb - New box at 25,000 miles was running MTM 535 then, not sure of failure (previous owner). Now 52,000 miles and been MTM 568'd at same time as box replaced. G/Box service at 40,000 miles, all good, no issues so far, smooth as silk.

Never Failed
1. Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2. Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3. el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4. CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5. RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6.Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7. Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
8. ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9. RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10. woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??
11. RS6_Dave (2003) Std til 27,500, then MRC Stage 1+ , box map with Service, not a glitch but only on 33k now...
12. MoRS6+ RS6plus, STD, 26k, original ATF, smooth as ice.
2003 RS6 MTM 568

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Post by coullboy » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:02 am

Come on then, Who wants to be number 13 on the 'Never failed' list.
Not me!
I'm going to drive carefully tomorrow and report after someone else has taken that unlucky number!!
Maybe we should miss 13?

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