Evening all!
3 days in to ownership, and I am in love!!
A couple of intermittent things I have picked up since owning it, what do you all think?
Rarely, when coming off the accelerator I get a knock (sensation, no noise). I'm unsure if the gearbox was about to drop down a gear, but I've stopped it? I thought maybe it's where I'm loading the engine up, then coming off the accelerator?
Secondly, I've noticed a couple of times when in D, when the car changes 4th to 5th there has been the same knock/judder as described above. Again, I think it may of been when coming off the accelerator, but can never replicate it. Even if I force the box to change, then immediately coming off the power.
Is it bad timing, and I've got a case of RS6 paranoia? Or is it a sign of a dying box? The gear changes are normally good, you can feel when it changes gear (ie power off then on), but no slipping or bangs. I tried the D->R->D->R thing, no noises, but car judders slightly when engaging, is that normal?
Thanks muchly for your help!
Is it worth worrying about?
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Doesn't sound like typical gearbox death throes. Hard to get a handle on the issue with your description - not easy to describe noises / sensations, I appreciate.
You should get a Vagcom and start looking to see what the box is doing. Or maybe you've just got a duff engine mount.
Or maybe it's a misfire.
You should get a Vagcom and start looking to see what the box is doing. Or maybe you've just got a duff engine mount.
Or maybe it's a misfire.
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Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Transmission mount maybe?
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Thanks guys! I have Vagcom, was planning to scan it anyway but will definetly do it tomorrow.
Finally had the chance to give her some proper beans tonight, and wow, what a car. Another issue now (maybe I need to calm down) is the whine in 1st gear, more noticeable at higher revs and overrun. Tell me It's normal and I'll disappear with no further worrying!!
Finally had the chance to give her some proper beans tonight, and wow, what a car. Another issue now (maybe I need to calm down) is the whine in 1st gear, more noticeable at higher revs and overrun. Tell me It's normal and I'll disappear with no further worrying!!
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Maybe your ATF is low. That might explain the other symptoms, too. Might be a good idea to do a fluid change.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Sounds like engine / transmission mounts.... Engine mounts are electronic and will show up in a scan of the engine ECU. You'll need to get under the car to see the transmission mounts though. Also the rear diff carrier mounts are worth looking at, and perhaps the central bearing carrier for the propshaft.
Not sure on the whine though. Might be worth while doing the gearbox and diff fluids to rule out any oil leaks, especially from the rear diff and torsen.
Not sure on the whine though. Might be worth while doing the gearbox and diff fluids to rule out any oil leaks, especially from the rear diff and torsen.
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Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Also, transfer box fluid. You don't want that to explode. Leaking output seals are common.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Thanks guys!! Unfortunately my Vagcom is messing around at the moment and won't install the drivers (can't find the disk... Damn it)
So we reckon box oil + atf fluid (these ain't the same as I understand it?), rear diff fluid and transfer box fluid?
Always worried about doing the 'box fluid, as I've read stories of people doing it and the box has then started to fail, but I suppose it's just prolonging the inevitable!!
So we reckon box oil + atf fluid (these ain't the same as I understand it?), rear diff fluid and transfer box fluid?
Always worried about doing the 'box fluid, as I've read stories of people doing it and the box has then started to fail, but I suppose it's just prolonging the inevitable!!
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
ATF is what's in the gearbox. Just that fluid.
Transfer box has its own oil (see DIY on output seal for more info).
Rear diff has its own oil.
The last 2 are easy to change. The first just needs a bit of care taking, but no biggy. Sometimes if the box is holding itself together with just swarf and mud then changing the ATF shows up the wear. It would only have been a matter of weeks anyway.
Transfer box has its own oil (see DIY on output seal for more info).
Rear diff has its own oil.
The last 2 are easy to change. The first just needs a bit of care taking, but no biggy. Sometimes if the box is holding itself together with just swarf and mud then changing the ATF shows up the wear. It would only have been a matter of weeks anyway.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Evening!
Finally got her on the ramp, was expecting something tragic as I paid little money for it, but she is in good nick!
Needs a cv boot as has a slight tear, and track rod end has slight play in it.
Now question, the gearbox sump seems to be leaking (ie oil on the gasket area), but I haven't seen any drips so presume it's weeping more than gushing out, I'll just get this done when it's serviced.
I also have the rear output shaft leak, again oil in the area below it.
Now, I've read the box servicing is awkward, but is it really that difficult? I've got Vagcom, and a between me and a mate we are confident with spanners.
Finally got her on the ramp, was expecting something tragic as I paid little money for it, but she is in good nick!
Needs a cv boot as has a slight tear, and track rod end has slight play in it.
Now question, the gearbox sump seems to be leaking (ie oil on the gasket area), but I haven't seen any drips so presume it's weeping more than gushing out, I'll just get this done when it's serviced.
I also have the rear output shaft leak, again oil in the area below it.
Now, I've read the box servicing is awkward, but is it really that difficult? I've got Vagcom, and a between me and a mate we are confident with spanners.
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Nah, it's definitely doable.
See my summer work thread.
See my summer work thread.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Hello again!
I'm gonna do the oils on the Center and rear diffs.
I see the oils are 75w90s for them both, can anyone recommend an oil they've used? Much appreciated!
I'm gonna do the oils on the Center and rear diffs.
I see the oils are 75w90s for them both, can anyone recommend an oil they've used? Much appreciated!
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Thought I would come back here. box got serviced by a specialist, the filter has disintegrated and wasn't in great condition.
The box still whines, it really isn't loud and only does it in 1st and 2nd. I'm expecting the worst to be honest. The gearbox as a whole isn't smooth, but not banging, knocking or slipping.
The box still whines, it really isn't loud and only does it in 1st and 2nd. I'm expecting the worst to be honest. The gearbox as a whole isn't smooth, but not banging, knocking or slipping.
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
Did you make sure they used the right filter?
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Is it worth worrying about?
I did mention it to them, and they knew about the issue. I have emailed them too double check, and possibly get it booked in to make sure.