robwight wrote:oh dear .. seemed to have opened a half dozen can of worms there :-/
robbo
No you haven't. Its caused debate thats all

and as everyone's joining in i guess it could be called a 'mass'-debate.
The ONLY thing you did wrong , was not use enough sellotape on the camera/phone !!.
Even with vbox, although it will give accurate figures, everybody's got different maps compared with each other, so all cars are going to perform in different ways. the only conclusion would be whose is the quickest to a certain speed or distance( which i dont think was your original purpose/point of the topic ?).
AFAIK, there isn't a direct related equation between bhp and torque. Someone with 500bhp could well have less torque than someone else with 480 bhp. Example being I've dyno'd at MRC @ 484bhp but have less boost to 3000rpm than a standard 440bhp car although mine has an extra 125 more torqs
one of MRC's cars has 22ps more than mine, but has 100+ more torque than me. So how do we compare cars apart from actually putting 2 side by side ?
Guess what im trying to say is, unless someone buys a car for track use, or E- penis factor, then the whole thing of timings,speed,power,torque is a futile exercise as to whose is better ............. although its damn good fun blasting down a runway/strip against another 'similar' car,regardless of who wins.
For the benefit of everyone , I WILL state for the record , that my avant has 459.5 litres ( 4.5 litres more than standard) than anyone else's in the luggage capacity bracket, this was achieved at MRC when i took the cd magazine cover/panel off. It had the effect of cooling the 6 player unit down as well to run at under 16 deg .better upgrade than any remaps/wagners/tyres as far as im concerned cause now my tunes are REEEEEALY cool.....just gotta silence them 2 speakers stickin out the back end of the car a little now