DRC versus pot hole

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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:48 am

Ok, all downloaded exactly as is on that site. Took out the helpful chap's site a few times while doing it but it is working again. 1.14Gb
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23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

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"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:59 am

Good job!
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by bam_bam » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:06 pm

Shoppinit wrote:C8 RS6?! Interesting!

@footlong: I am HTTracking the interesting stuff, but if you want to hoard it all, then that sounds good to me. You would be doing the community a favour.

What is this site? IP lookup shows somewhere in Bulgaria? Bam, got any ideas?
I use HTTrack and WireShark, nice tool Shopp (oh er!). It's just a webserv (albeit a very nice one, web 2.0 with unusual cache habits bla bla bla). Incidentally, the guy who developed the webserver also wrote a thesis on the subject "Development of a handheld system to monitor and control CAN-bus systems in a non-automative environment".
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:52 pm

Ok, quick and dirty upload. Using IIS7.5 on a VMware server, sorry if that is too basic for Bam ;). Could use one of my CPanel jobs but didn't see the point. Might make a template at some point so it sorts the folders first etc but can do that anytime:

http://www.1stcalltech.com/files/audi/
Current:

23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

Gone:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by el_ringo » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:23 pm

Good site pinching Footlong, he may notice a massive surge in traffic and pull the plug.

I'm surprised that Audi still pursue the DRC, but this fix will work, and make it easier for those who still run it to have it function. Maybe a gauge can be plumbed it to monitor the pressure?
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:30 pm

If it really is as easy as neastev makes is sound, then why not buy the ebay adapter, plumb in a gauge (digital even for those that want DRC monitoring inside the car), and recharge the DRC as and when necessary? Implies access to a hydraulic pump, but any JCB / minidigger / farm equipment service place will have one of those.

I'm almost tempted to put the DRC back in just to try this out. :)
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by swannny » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:10 pm

Oh Shop I wouldn't want you using your car as a tester... Use mine, it's still running way too high! :biggrin3:
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by neastev » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:55 pm

Been thinking about fitting a test point to the DRC and think it can be done fairly easily.....

The way I see it the system would need to be measured without losing any fluid as the testing I did on mine showed a difference with a very small volume of oil. If a tee piece was permenantly installed in each of the 2 circuits it would allow monitoring of the 2 shocks and accum with the one measurement. The tests I did when charging showed that the oil is free to flow through the accumulator to both sides via orifice holes so the above would work...... :shock:

We use a "minimess" test point at work which looses practically no fluid when disconnected and has a good sealed dustcap and may be ideal for the job. In theory it would also be possible to pump fluid into the circuit easily so would allow fine adjustments etc..... so I may look at this further. :idea:
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:59 pm

Do it quick before you and DavePerc are the only ones not to have ditched the godforesaken mess!
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by Daveperc » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:24 pm

Haven't checked recently but when I did last year I found over 80% of cars on PH were still on DRC - and this will be a low estimate of the population at large as it will be mostly "enthusiast" cars.

Be interested if someone else would like to do a snap-shot.

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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:29 pm

I still swear that the cornering was more level with my DRC than with the PSS9 setup that I have now, which I really liked. You would kind of expect that though due to the design of the thing ;). To mildly back Dave up, as applies in general, an awful lot of people join forums solely to discuss problems with their cars so the percentage that we see on here with DRC failures is quite likely not going to be a fair average non?

DRC may have it's problems but it also has it's merits imo for a lot of people but that is just my non-technical opinion.
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23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

Gone:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by el_ringo » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:35 pm

Would be neat to see a tested and checked working DRC car corner compared to the coilovers +/- the ARB upgrade.
Daytona Grey (C5) RS6 saloon, but just a little better...

**** SOLD!!! :( ****

KW V3 suspension
390mm C6 Brakes
Hotchkis ARBs
Viper Tuning (537bhp 604lbft)
Unit 20 TCU remap
Milltek non-res exhaust and downpipes
100 cell sport cats
Aero wipers
Winter wheels
Wagner intercoolers
LED interior lights

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All the options with the exception of stupid air suspension

Tesla Model X 60D
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by RS6Steve » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:40 pm

bam_bam wrote:
el_ringo wrote:If it doesn't work, Grizz has a DRC recharge gadget.
TBF - that's just an attachment he fits over Amanda's mouth, there is silence for a couple of seconds then hey presto, DRC fully recharged and back up to pressure!

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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by bam_bam » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:45 pm

neastev wrote:...both sides via orifice holes...... :shock:
*Giggity*

Would it not be easier to just add a gauge of sorts to each circuit?
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Re: DRC versus pot hole

Post by neastev » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:17 pm

Some additional info in the attachment
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