I know, tyres again.......

[scooby-tc]

very good price for 20s,i got 2 conti SP5 RO1 for £475 fitted and i thought that was good

[scooby-tc]

very good price for 20s,i got 2 conti SP5 RO1 in 255/30/20 fitment for £475 fitted and i thought that was good

[ecain63]

The Vreds are great in all conditions so long as you dont have uprated ARB's fitted. The tyre needs an element of chassis twist to get the load onto the tyre. As said previously they are great in the rain. I never had a problem with them at all, no matter what the weather threw at them. Just dont fit ARB's if you have Vreds or you'll be pulling the 6 from the bushes.

[Daveperc]

Eddie,

Interesting hypothesis, but my experience is different.

Am currently running Vreds - and have recently uprated the ARB's - and the car feels as planted angood as ever - in fact, better.

My view is that the Vred's probably aren't as good as the Goodies when you drive near the (dry) limit - they have a much stiffer sidewall and probably this means they are not as progressive in breakaway. However I think they are fabulous in the wet, and these are the conditions with my driving that I am most likely to get really near the limit. On a dry road, where I live and drive, I raraely get near the limit in the dry - there are too many other hazards out there to risk it!

My conclusion is that it's horses for courses. If you want (and are capable) of taking the car to it's limits in the dry, then from all the opinions here I'd say the Goodies are the best bet (as long as you don't mind regular replacements!). If like me your main concern is wet handling I'd vote for Vred's.

I have run P Zero's and PS2's in the past, and so far the Vred's have my vote overall (incl wear rate and price)

Them's my views anyway!

Dave

[philroach]

Eddie,

Interesting hypothesis, but my experience is different.

Am currently running Vreds - and have recently uprated the ARB's - and the car feels as planted angood as ever - in fact, better.

My view is that the Vred's probably aren't as good as the Goodies when you drive near the (dry) limit - they have a much stiffer sidewall and probably this means they are not as progressive in breakaway. However I think they are fabulous in the wet, and these are the conditions with my driving that I am most likely to get really near the limit. On a dry road, where I live and drive, I raraely get near the limit in the dry - there are too many other hazards out there to risk it!

have you got H&R's with Hotchkis ARB's ?
My conclusion is that it's horses for courses. If you want (and are capable) of taking the car to it's limits in the dry, then from all the opinions here I'd say the Goodies are the best bet (as long as you don't mind regular replacements!). If like me your main concern is wet handling I'd vote for Vred's.

I have run P Zero's and PS2's in the past, and so far the Vred's have my vote overall (incl wear rate and price)

Them's my views anyway!

Dave

[Wolverine]

I have 20 inch rims and the only tyre I would now go with is the NEW Conti 5Ps. They are awesome .... right balance of grip in wet & dry, comfort and noise. The key thing with 20 inch wheels is to be aware of rubbing and Conti are the only brand I could find with a specific fitment for Audi ... (RO1 code). They were also the only tyre that ABT (after-market tuning company) would recommend for my ABT alloys on an RS6.



The ContiSportContact 5P took the top spot in the 2010 evo tyre test, October 2010.

"A very solid performance sees the Continental take the win. It set the standard in many of the tests, taking an almost clean sweep in the dry tests and rating very highly in the wet tests, too. It also garnered praise for its feel and abilities in the subjective tests."

[scooby-tc]

glad i got the 5P R01 after that little read

[philroach]

Eddie,

Interesting hypothesis, but my experience is different.

Am currently running Vreds - and have recently uprated the ARB's - and the car feels as planted angood as ever - in fact, better.

My view is that the Vred's probably aren't as good as the Goodies when you drive near the (dry) limit - they have a much stiffer sidewall and probably this means they are not as progressive in breakaway. However I think they are fabulous in the wet, and these are the conditions with my driving that I am most likely to get really near the limit. On a dry road, where I live and drive, I raraely get near the limit in the dry - there are too many other hazards out there to risk it!

have you got H&R's with Hotchkis ARB's ?
My conclusion is that it's horses for courses. If you want (and are capable) of taking the car to it's limits in the dry, then from all the opinions here I'd say the Goodies are the best bet (as long as you don't mind regular replacements!). If like me your main concern is wet handling I'd vote for Vred's.

I have run P Zero's and PS2's in the past, and so far the Vred's have my vote overall (incl wear rate and price)

Them's my views anyway!

do you have H and R suspension as well as hotchkis ARB's ?
Dave

[Daveperc]

Hi Phil

I nearly missed your question buried in the quote box!

In answer to your question - no I'm running DRC (v3) with Hotchkiss ARB's F&R

Dave

[ChrisRS6]

What an absolute nightmare I've had with getting tyres for my 6 .

4x Michelin PS3's ordered and I popped into Kwik-Fit for "half an hour" (according to the deputy manager I placed the order with) to get them fitted on Sunday morning.

2 1/2 hours later , I jumped in, turned the car on and began reversing out of the bay. After barely moving 2 meters (not even out of the bay fully) I stopped as I was getting vibrations through the steering wheel and pedals .

Going back into the office, I said "feels like they're rubbing. Can you take a look please?"

"Probably just 'new-tyre-feel" was the reply until I persuaded one of the mechanics to jump in and drive forward the metre or so... "feels like they're rubbing" was his opinion !

After inspecting, both fronts were rubbing badly on the suspension arm (not just on the notorious knob, but on the actual arm below as well) .

A lot of head-scratching, and double & triple checking tyre sizes (exactly the same as the Continentals which were removed (at 255/35/R19 96 Y Extra Load R01 fitment) it was decided I'd leave the car there for them to look at on Monday when they had more staff available .

Monday morning:

After getting a new Continental delivered from another Bristol branch (exactly the same size and model as the ones we took off)…it didn’t fit .

After trying a new Goodyear that was delivered from a Chippenham branch…it didn’t fit .

After trying a Bridgestone delivered from a Bath branch…it fitted a treat! They then sent a taxi off to pick up another 3 Bridgestones !

So I now have a set of Bridgestone RE050A's on the 6...not out of choice, but out of necessity.

What on earth is going on here . All tyres tried were EXACTLY the same measurement/load/speed/fitment rating.

Is Bridgestone a German manufacturer by any chance? I knew that tolerances were slim on the engineering of these things, but surely something's a bit odd with my 6? Perhaps it's just a bit highly strung?

It's had a 4-wheel laser alignment done about 3 months ago so everything should still be OK.
Could it be something to do with my H&Rs?

Only slight benefit is that the Bridgestones were about £100 cheaper.

Fair play to Kwik-Fit though for their hard work in helping to get this sorted! A much higher level of service than I was expecting, but I think they've banned all future RS6's from their branch

[philroach]

Hi Phil

I nearly missed your question buried in the quote box!

In answer to your question - no I'm running DRC (v3) with Hotchkiss ARB's F&R

Dave

Hi Dave
Am just wondering what effect on the handling / comfort it might have if I swapped from 255/35 Vreds to F1's , bearing in mind I have the H&R coilovers and Hotchkis ARB's set up ??
Phil

[MoRS6+]

What an absolute nightmare I've had with getting tyres for my 6 .

4x Michelin PS3's ordered and I popped into Kwik-Fit for "half an hour" (according to the deputy manager I placed the order with) to get them fitted on Sunday morning.

2 1/2 hours later , I jumped in, turned the car on and began reversing out of the bay. After barely moving 2 meters (not even out of the bay fully) I stopped as I was getting vibrations through the steering wheel and pedals .

Going back into the office, I said "feels like they're rubbing. Can you take a look please?"

"Probably just 'new-tyre-feel" was the reply until I persuaded one of the mechanics to jump in and drive forward the metre or so... "feels like they're rubbing" was his opinion !

After inspecting, both fronts were rubbing badly on the suspension arm (not just on the notorious knob, but on the actual arm below as well) .

A lot of head-scratching, and double & triple checking tyre sizes (exactly the same as the Continentals which were removed (at 255/35/R19 96 Y Extra Load R01 fitment) it was decided I'd leave the car there for them to look at on Monday when they had more staff available .

Monday morning:

After getting a new Continental delivered from another Bristol branch (exactly the same size and model as the ones we took off)…it didn’t fit .

After trying a new Goodyear that was delivered from a Chippenham branch…it didn’t fit .

After trying a Bridgestone delivered from a Bath branch…it fitted a treat! They then sent a taxi off to pick up another 3 Bridgestones !

So I now have a set of Bridgestone RE050A's on the 6...not out of choice, but out of necessity.

What on earth is going on here . All tyres tried were EXACTLY the same measurement/load/speed/fitment rating.

Is Bridgestone a German manufacturer by any chance? I knew that tolerances were slim on the engineering of these things, but surely something's a bit odd with my 6? Perhaps it's just a bit highly strung?

It's had a 4-wheel laser alignment done about 3 months ago so everything should still be OK.
Could it be something to do with my H&Rs?

Only slight benefit is that the Bridgestones were about £100 cheaper.

Fair play to Kwik-Fit though for their hard work in helping to get this sorted! A much higher level of service than I was expecting, but I think they've banned all future RS6's from their branch

Unfortunately Chris, this car does seem to be extremely sensitive to various manufacturers' tyres - even if they are the correct size!!

Daniel (spacecowboy) had the same problem with fouling in this thread: http://rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... ic&t=76181

And then there was slimmyreed in this thread: http://rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... y&start=15

And of course my recent escapades with the knobbly-bit.

I would seriously double,double-check your knobbly-bit clearance with the Bridgies because in my recent post (as you saw) they rubbed on the fecker.

Been running my Bridgies (RE050A 255/35/19) now for a couple weeks (knobbly bit removed with angle grinder don't forget) and so far I really like them; loads of feel and very predictable in both the wet and dry. And the rim protection on them is mammoth!

EDIT: In fact I've just been outside and the rim protection on mine measure 10mm exactly from the alloy to the outer edge of the tyre. I actually think this is more than the Vredestein 275 jobbies. Madness, but I'm not complaining.

[Daveperc]

Hi Dave
Am just wondering what effect on the handling / comfort it might have if I swapped from 255/35 Vreds to F1's , bearing in mind I have the H&R coilovers and Hotchkis ARB's set up ??
Phil

Phil
Can't really say as I haven't run F1's myself. As per my post above, Mooch in particular swore by them (well Mooch swore at lot's of things!!). But then he hated the Vred's which I am very happy with.

Pretty sure you would find the F1' very good and progressive, but suspect wear would be more of an issue than with the Vred's.

Dave

[Daveperc]

ChrisRS6,

Sounds a very odd set of experiences!

Presume you are on OEM standard size rims and that Kwikfit did put the tyres on the right way round - there is an inside and an outside to these tyres! Also presume they were properly inflated - you need about 40psi for them to hold their shape - if a lot lower they might bulge and rub?

The H&R's shouldn't make any difference as the suspension arm (and the knobbly bit) are part of the suspension, not the damper.

Very odd

Dave

[RS6Steve]

Like Marcus, I run the Bridgestones and love them also (even if they are M01's)