RS6 misfiring

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RS6 misfiring

Post by dokot » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:38 am

Hi, i have a 2003 RS6 Avant with a 512 bhp MTM upgrade and a full Milltek non-resonated exhaust.

It recently developed a misfire problem under load in cylinders 3 and 7, i had the coil packs replaced and this cured the problem.

Two days later the problem is back again this time cylinders 3 and 4, same again coil packs replaced.

Two days later guess its misfiring again. Can someone help??? Thanks

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RE: RS6 misfiring

Post by GardinerG » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:55 am

I guess you are getting P0300/16692 along with cylinder specific errors?

16684/P0300/000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
This DTC indicates that one or multiple cylinders are misfiring, but the ECU fails to identify the cylinder.

Possible Causes
  • Air Intake System leaking
    Fuel Supply faulty
    Injector(s) faulty
    Ignition Cable(s) and/or Spark Plug(s) faulty
    Ignition Coil(s) faulty
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve (N18 stuck/open
    Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) faulty

Possible Solutions
  • Check Misfire Recognition
    Check Air Intake System
    Check Fuel Supply
    Check Injector(s) and Injector Sealing
    Check Ignition Cable(s) and Spark Plug(s)
    Check Ignition Coil(s)
    Check Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve (N18
    Check Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
All others
Cylinder x Misfire Detected (e.g.)
16692 p0308 035 cyl 8
16691 p0307 035 cyl 7
16687 p0303 035 cyl 3
16686 p0302 035 cyl 2

Possible Causes
  • Ignition system
    Fuel injectors
    Fuel pressure
    Running out of fuel
    EVAP canister purge valve
    Evaporative emission system
    Low compression
    Base engine problems
    Controle Module damaged
Are you getting any other errors?

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RE: RS6 misfiring

Post by Shoppinit » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:45 pm

What fuel are you running? Have you tried filling up somewhere else?

When's the last time the plugs were changed?

+What Grant said - especially vacuum + MAF leaks.
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RE: RS6 misfiring

Post by Shoppinit » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:50 pm

Would be useful if you could log the ignition timing to see if it's being pulled by the ECU. Also MAF values.
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Post by chunky79 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:59 pm

I was told that you should always change the spark plugs when doing the coil packs otherwise the packs will fail quickly again
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.

Now - Empty garage

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why?

Post by woodlum » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:52 pm

chunky79 wrote:I was told that you should always change the spark plugs when doing the coil packs otherwise the packs will fail quickly again
Why?? :? I'm interested in this as I've just changed a single coil in the wifes X3 yesterday.

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Post by chunky79 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:59 am

I assume is due to the faulty coil not making a full/ proper connection with the spark plug. Spark plugs are pretty delicate
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.

Now - Empty garage

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!

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Post by dokot » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:10 pm

Hi Guys, Thanks for all your replies, i had the car diagnised again and its the original cylinders 3 and 7 misfiring again. I will go with the spark plugs for now although they were changed less than 500 miles ago. The plugs were laser platinums, main dealer supplied with chasis number reference. Could it be the MTM ECU remap playing up?

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Post by paul_23 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:05 pm

I doubt the remap would cause the problem unless you have just had it done - best to log some parameters on VAGCOM.

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