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Post by rsvirgin » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:57 pm

Hi Guys

I finally bought one, however I am a bit bored (skint too!) and want more grunt.

Does anyone know where I can get a cone filter, decent exhaust or any other (relatively cheap but effective) mods that I can do to really get her flying?

Please help!!

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Post by GlynRS2 » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:47 pm

The first thing is to check that everything is in fine working order, so that you have the full standard performance to start with!

RS2's really respond well to a service and new spark plugs. Check that you have no boost leaks, as obviously this will reduce your performance. Fitting a boost guage is a good way of being able to keep an eye on this and detect problems when they occur.
If you car has never had it's DV replaced it may well benefit from having this done - you can use either a Audi S3 DV, which is about £20 and should last a few years or go for an upgrade with a Forge 007 at about £100. The waste gate frequency valve may also benefit from being replaced if it has never been done and similarly the Lambda sensor. The other thing to consider is replacing the fuel filter as this is unlikely to have been done before, as it does not appear on Audi service schedules - this is because it is a pig of a job, rather than it not being necessary.
Most of the above is fairly straight forward and you will be able to get advice here and on S2Forum.com.
If you are going for an exhaust, Miltek do a good system that is widely available. However, you may like to consider a custom made one from LongLife Exhausts. This has to be done right as to little back pressure may actually cause the turbo to stall and decrease your performance.
Once you have you car in top OE condition I would recomend a trip to the guys at MRC for a remap. Mihnea & Doug know these cars backwards. It may well be worth seeking their advice before you do anything in fact. Alaistairg, AAH! and myself have all had our RS2's remapped by Mihnea and have been very pleased with the results.
I hope that helps.
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Post by alastairg » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:43 pm

Glyn is spot on with that post. Do the above and get an MRC remap. Do not waste time and money on the cone filter and exhaust at present. IMHO you gain noise rather than real performance unless you are really going for the big power (400bhp+) conversions.
Doug and Mihnea will keep you on the right track
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Post by VaudiGR » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:08 pm

I bought my car last year and i must say i got it to work properly a year after,not because i came up with new problems,but because i didnt solve everything at once.My car is remmaped by MTM and has a boost gauge fitted so that i can see the correct pressures.Unfortunatelly although i really wanted to have Mihnea and MRC tune my car,i live in Greece and i cannot send them my ECU for reprogramming and back.In any case the car runs beautifully,has very little oil consumption,has all sensors refitted to work in a less than 90 degrees temperature and also has a bigger oil cooler for Greek hot summers.
Glyn has all the rest!

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Post by rsvirgin » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:49 am

Thanks very much guys, really appreciate it. I have had the car since April and it has run faultlessly apart from:

ABS Sensor need replacing as a wheel speed sensor apparently had the wires pulled out whilst going along.

A knackered Thermostat made me overheat but no harm done

New front suspension as the near side was doing absolutely nothing

Other than these the engine is really good. I had it rolling roaded at 320bhp and about 340 torque (i think if memory serves)

I have pretty much 0% mechanical ability, anyone know roughly how much it would cost to do a fuel filter and a re-map? A lambda sensor sounds expensive. The previous owner got QST to fit a dump valve, no idea what it was though. I also need some new front discs, I bought some 993 TT discs but they don't fit!! They are the right diameter and disc thickness but the hub is wrong. The invoice from QST said it was a 993 TT upgrade (£2000) but they want £400 for 2 new discs!!!! Any ideas? BTW they are drilled too if that makes a difference!!

Any suggestions/ help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Post by alastairg » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:33 pm

Lambda is not expensive £40 ish IIRC nor a big job (I think even I could do it !) unplug/unscrew new lambda and reverse.

993 twin turbo wrong as the big red upgrade is the 964 turbo spec. Really should change my signature !! Check/search here and you will find a great list of the porsche brake bits that fit with codes.

I would talk to MRC to price the job
Fuel filter sparks air filter check waste gate frequency valve (you can with vagcom) check for boost leaks replace front discs and remap (which indirectly will assess the lambda health)

When was it on an RR who did it and do you have the plots ??? (MRC would find it useful to see the plots as you can get an idea of engine health from the curves........boost leaks for example)

Sounds about right for a healthy RS2. They all seem to get a higher torque figure that spec. Mine at AMD on a hot summer day was 315/333
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Post by Corey » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:13 pm

rsvirgin wrote:I bought some 993 TT discs but they don't fit!! They are the right diameter and disc thickness but the hub is wrong. The invoice from QST said it was a 993 TT upgrade (£2000) but they want £400 for 2 new discs!!!! Any ideas? BTW they are drilled too if that makes a difference!!

Any suggestions/ help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
993TT discs fit perfectly on the RS2, you need to upgrade to the later Porsche caliper as fitted to the GT3 though. The stock RS2 calipers has serious corrosion problems with the pads binding within the caliper, the upgrade gets rid of this issue once and for all.
These are the caliper's the car should have left the factory with IMHO.
Have a look over on S2forum (when it gets back on line) and do a search for all the information you need.

A couple of guys here have had the kit.
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Post by rsvirgin » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:30 pm

Thanks very much for all you help fellas, I really appreciate it. Especially Glyn for getting the prices off MRC, should be very interesting.

Corey, have you any idea how much the GT3 type calipers are? ican see I amy be spending a few quid in the new year!!

Thanks again

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Post by SimonB » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:50 pm

Just for the record I got a GT3 upgrade for my RS2 and it made one hell of a difference!! All done in a day, I could even specify the color of the calipers too. I had the top mounts done too because mine fail straight away, I went for the sport top mount with the spherical bearing a liitle more expensive but they last forever and they helped the handling too. Hope that helps, I will be having the GT3 rears fitted soon aswell so I will let you know how I get on. Give Corey a bell at quattronics he has done all the work on my car to make it drive and handle as she should.

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Post by VaudiGR » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:27 pm

GT3 will be my near future modification as well...when i get hold of some money!

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Post by BRY » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:59 pm

I better get busy with the calipers then ;)

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Post by alastairg » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:02 pm

Corey wrote:
rsvirgin wrote:I bought some 993 TT discs but they don't fit!! They are the right diameter and disc thickness but the hub is wrong. The invoice from QST said it was a 993 TT upgrade (£2000) but they want £400 for 2 new discs!!!! Any ideas? BTW they are drilled too if that makes a difference!!

Any suggestions/ help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
993TT discs fit perfectly on the RS2, you need to upgrade to the later Porsche caliper as fitted to the GT3 though. The stock RS2 calipers has serious corrosion problems with the pads binding within the caliper, the upgrade gets rid of this issue once and for all.
These are the caliper's the car should have left the factory with IMHO.
Have a look over on S2forum (when it gets back on line) and do a search for all the information you need.

A couple of guys here have had the kit.
Yes but that was not the question he asked. 993tt discs are not a direct replacement on the standard RS2 brake options.
See the list for in this thread http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ic&t=49403 and find the direct fit options
However I do agree that the more recent calipers that Corey sells are the wise long term option. Just a shame every brake thread is highjacked by those with vested interests.
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Post by Corey » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:21 pm

rsvirgin wrote:I bought some 993 TT discs but they don't fit!! They are the right diameter and disc thickness but the hub is wrong. The invoice from QST said it was a 993 TT upgrade (£2000) but they want £400 for 2 new discs!!!! Any ideas?
Was the question not related to the discs? and the comment "any ideas" I would've thought he would welcome the information that the discs he has purchased could be used at some point in the future.
alastairg wrote:Just a shame every brake thread is highjacked by those with vested interests.
I don't see how it is a highjack, sorry Alastair but I disagree with you. People put forward a valid response to a question.
I have no vested interest in this thread on this forum btw, just offering some advice so he doesn't waste what he has already purchased.
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Post by alastairg » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:28 pm

I have no vested interest in this thread on this forum btw, just offering some advice so he doesn't waste what he has already purchased.
Your kidding right ? The solution to buying the wrong discs is to replace the calipers....
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Post by Corey » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:37 pm

alastairg wrote:
I have no vested interest in this thread on this forum btw, just offering some advice so he doesn't waste what he has already purchased.
Your kidding right ? The solution to buying the wrong discs is to replace the calipers....
How did you come to that conclusion???
I merely said that he had not wasted his money on the discs as they "may" be of use to him.
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