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Smart as opposed to dumb. Well hope so [img]images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Imagine you had a +/- USD 50K budget and you lived in a country where RS4 aren't sold -and imports aren't allowed nor a reasonable option-. A bit like trying to buy a ghost red RS4 in France... [img]images/graemlins/062802beat_prv.gif[/img]

Then what would be your definite choice for an AWD sports car for that budget ?
(ie can't afford the RS6, Cayenne Turbo and Murcielago)
Either new or second-hand, stock or highly tuned if any.

Eric

50keys of what?

Hum, seems the dollar sign didn't go through.
USD 50K.
Eric

Are you saying that the RS4 wasn't sold in France?!?!?

My option would be to move to Germany [img]images/graemlins/nodder.gif[/img].

Now that's a reasonable option. [img]images/graemlins/boots.gif[/img]
"Honey, pack your things, take the kids out of school, learn German. Thrust me, it's worth it and it's Old Europe anyway. Oh, and would you marry me ?"
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Eric

Eric this post is SO hypothetical, that I would never really do this you understand, but your question intrigued me.... so after 5 minutes of head scratching it would have to be the Volvo S60R.

This could never actually happen though. It is simply my choice from a poor shortlist. [img]images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

The new V70R's are a bit tasty, same as the S60R just bigger, and an estate. Don't diss Volvo estates anymore me ol' matey, they're swift. 300 horses, and a fair bundle of torque too. And reliable. Otherwise, you're right, not too many other options. Subaru Impreza WRX? Or the Forrester of course. I think Mitsubishi do an AWD version of the Galant VR-4's, they're rapid too. Errrrm, I'm a bit stumped it has to be said. Perhaps a 3 litre Jaguar X-Type?

Tio

Subaru Legacy B4RSK.....

or the New Legacy Blitzen
if you want a similair sized car or
Subaru Impreza STi8.....if you want a smaller car.

Thanks! I must say I never thought of these to come-up, apart from the Impreza STI.

I expected the German usual suspects to come first : Porsche C4/C4S (993), followed by the S3/S4 and Golf R32, or maybe the incoming TT V6 with sequential gearbox.

Tim : I hear you, but this hypothetical question is somehow my own situation [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. I've been scouting all FR sites (Audi.fr, Centrale, Argus-Auto, Caradisiac, Ebay) and calling Audi agents on a regular basis for a second-hand red one for 4 months, with zero-nada success.
Except for one potential 450hp import through Mobile.de where I was asked to do a 20K USD deposit, pay a hefty 6K USD commission to the dealer over the DE advertised price (actual import/registration fees are about 800 USD), in a transaction where he'd only appear as a "escrow" party, not a professional car dealer (gives a lot of warranty and legal coverage for a FR private buyer, vs buying from a private owner). Didn't like the smell, so I backed out.

I've got the money ready, I want to buy one but I can't find...
Thus my candidly starting to look for other alternatives so hopefully when the track season re-opens in spring, I can join the party.

Eric
PS : the M Coupé is immobilized, can't drive it anymore.